Feb 8, 2020

The Expendables Go to Hell

While we are still waiting for an Expendables movie, we have been spoiled to a sneak preview of a surprise graphic novel depicting our heroes' journey in hell after they are killed in combat.

The story was conceived by Stallone along with Bane writer Chuck Dixon. Graham Nolan, who frequently collaborates with Dixon and helped co-create Bane, provides the artwork. Several samples of Nolan's illustrations from the graphic novel have also been revealed and you can find them here.

The story of The Expendables Go to Hell picks up with the group awakening in Hell after getting killed in combat. It's not clear whether this is a stand-alone comic book or a potential feed to an EX movie, which I personally think is unlikely.

As a comic book, it sure looks and sounds like it could be a lot of fun. Especially with no recent updates on the status of the franchise's return to theaters with another movie sequel.

Jan 30, 2020

An EX Spin-Off?

A new story on the development of EX4 initially reported by this website has been picked up by several smaller movie news outlets. The story insinuates that EX4 will be a spin-off a la F&F moving Statham to the  front and center, pushing Sly to the background in a supporting role. Arnold and some of the key cast members are expected to be back but not confirmed. The spin-off should also see the introduction of new and more international members not seen before.

The authenticity of the story has not been verified and should be taken with a grain of salt until further official statements are made by producers or cast members.

If true, I find the idea quite appealing and refreshing. Given the length of time it has taken this project to develop, I was actually thinking how challenging it would be now to have Sly at his age take on the lead role for the franchise, and continue the same formula over again with a group of very aged actors, noting that the formula of introducing younger actors had miserably failed in the 3rd installment.

Statham is a more secure bet as a lead surrounded by less prominent famous supporting actors who have seen their peek passed since a decade ago. His popularity has been quite strong since his introduction into the F&F franchise, and the spin-off formula has already paid off with the latest Hobbs & Shaw and to some extent with Xander Cage by introducing a more international cast roster.

The saga continues?

Oct 29, 2019

Arnold Out of EX4 If Not Written Well

Arnold gave an interview to his fan site where he briefly talks about the Expendables 4. 

Asked if the fourth installment was finally coming; he responded that he has nothing to do with it at this point but that can change very quickly. He further explains "I have not seen it because I have told them that I would never do another one if the story is not written well for me."

I find it strange that Couture has received the script and not Arnold!! Unless his part was so bad that the producers didn't dare send it to him. Now I wonder if Couture was pulling off another one of his rumors when he claimed to have read the script.

The making of EX4 has taken a life of its own and once again looks less than more likely to ever happen. 

Oct 8, 2019

Couture Reconfirms EX4

In a new interview given very recently, Couture reiterates his involvement in a new Expendables movie. He asserts that he has been in the procession of the script and that EX4 is happening. Filming has been pushed to next spring as he had announced in an interview that was previously posted here, and this time he explains that the postponement of the production was due to some scheduling conflicts (Sly’s Samaritan maybe).

Couture seems to be very confident that EX4 is happening and this time he seems to be more informed of the movie’s development and progress. He’s been wrong before but I feel like giving him the benefit of the doubt this time. 

Oct 3, 2019

EX4 Now Set To Release in 2021

After my hope in seeing a new Expendables movie was starting to fade away, Couture may have just given me something to hang onto. I know he’s known for unreliable news and what he says doesn’t always transpire into reality but this time I think he’s giving out solid information with some good details.

He recently gave a YouTube interview where he discusses EX4 in some good details:

The script was sent to him a month ago. He thinks it has the potential to be the best movie yet in the series.

Production was scheduled to start this fall but has now been postponed to next spring. I bet this happened due to scheduling conflict with Samaritan or maybe Sly signed up for that project knowing that EX4 was going to be delayed.

Toll Road is back and has some good parts but not more screen time than the usual.

All the old guys are back!!

The story-line is timely he says and people are going to love it, it'll be huge.

Starting next Spring, production will then last for 3 months and 9 months of post, so he thinks that the movie will only be released in 2021.

I hope he’s right this time and what he’s giving out is reliable.

It’s been a roller coaster of a story this making of the EX4 but let’s hope again.

Sep 28, 2019

EX4 RIP? I Hope Not

After a series of encouraging news in the month of July that were seriously pointing to the development of EX4, including several hints by Sly himself to his personal involvement in the project being in the works, the world of movies has gone radio silent on the fourth and highly anticipated installment of the Expendables franchise. Nada since then and it’s been two solid months of no news.

It was expected that Sly would be busy with the release of his last Rambo movie, but we were hoping to hear at least something, something that would keep the hope going. Well, the topic of EX4 wasn’t going to be avoided by the media during the Rambo promotional interviews, but personally I was expecting it to be discussed much more than it was. Hard to say how many interviews did Sly sit on to promote Rambo but I’ve personally seen a dozen on the internet and there was probably a lot more that I don’t even know about. And out of all those interviews, EX4 was only mentioned a couple of times and in a very hasty manner. It almost felt like that Sly had warned interviewers to not approach the topic and if they did, he would brush it off. During the entire Rambo promotional journey EX4 was only addressed twice and very quickly!!

One of the instances where the EX4 topic came up was at the “Tonight Show” with Fallon who I didn’t know seemed to be a fan of the franchise. While discussing some distant memories of his encounter with Lundgren on the set of Rocky IV, Sly transitioned to mention that he might end up working with the Swede again in EX4 while rolling his eyes. Fallon got excited and so did the audience with a round of applause as if they’ve been anticipating the fourth movie like the rest of us have, but Sly didn’t seem to be overly enthusiastic about it and did not go any further to elaborate on the topic and quickly moved on and back to Rambo. It felt like that he doesn’t want to do the movie but is being forced to, and might not even want to do it if he could get out of it. Maybe I’m reading too much into his body language but this is how I felt about that whole short conversation.

In another instance during a Rambo promotional interview, he’s heard saying that the movie is being forced to happen because of foreign investment and those foreign guys want it very badly. Once again it feels like he is not overly keen on doing the movie but being forced into it.

It’s been known over the past few months that Sly is pushing his production company “Balboa” to take off more seriously and be ready to not only take more projects on but to become the production company of reference in the realm of action movies. His heart is pounding in that direction. Sly is a determined individual and when he sets his mind on something, he gets it done. And it’s understandable that if his passion is veering towards becoming a more of a producer in the action genre and leaving a legacy by mentoring the younger generation in that direction, he wouldn’t want to involve himself in lengthily acting projects that a movie like EX4 is. I even wonder if his involvement in those low budget B Movies that came out last year was a sign of this and whether he did Rambo to go out with one last action movie legacy in the genre.

While I was still optimistic that despite Sly’s reluctance to do EX4 it might still happen because of those foreign investors pushing him to do it, the announcement of his next movie under the banner of MGM & his Balboa production company just hit my hope to go down to an all-time low. Samaritan will indeed start filming early next year. Early next year? And we are now in October!! There is not a lot of room for EX4 to be slotted in, I’m not sure if pre-production has even started, they don’t even have a Director yet. The hope is fading away. I hope I’m just being pessimistic but the prospect of EX4 happening this year or before Samaritan is less and less likely now. I almost feel that this whole Samaritan venture might be the end of EX4. Sly is not getting any younger and the other cast members of the franchise may not be always available at the same time – which is miraculously the case right now, they are all available with no ongoing projects - and the investors will eventually lose patience and cancel the project to push their money into something more realistic.

If the pre-production of EX4 is not announced anytime soon, it’s safe to assume that the project will not go ahead this year and probably not even before June next year if it ever does move ahead.

RIP EX4? That would be extremely disappointing. The EX franchise needs to go out on a high note, EX3 was an affront to the legacy of our childhood icons and needs to be rectified in the history of action movies. Sly, you need to rectify history before you move on to your new projects.

Jul 27, 2019

The Expendables Back In Town Soon!

That's it, it seems to be really happening. Sly is teasing another EX hint to the 4th chapter starting soon. Statham was a sure bet and Banderas will be of party too. The boys will be back in town soon!

Jul 17, 2019

The Expendables Trio

Nothing really exciting but just a post by a former German soccer player posing with our favorite Expendables Trio: Sly, Arnold and Lundgren. The photo is open to all sorts of speculations from a simple friendly gathering to Sly brainstorming EX4 with his co-lead actors. Yours to determine.

Jul 14, 2019

Confirmation: EX4 In The Works

In an interview with Grit Daily News, Campbell and Grobman, the CEO and Founders of Campbell Grobman Films, discussed their entertainment career trajectories as powerhouse female producers in Hollywood, and their current work on EX4 was also mentioned.

Known for their past successes with the Texas Chainsaw Massacre franchise, Hollywood producers, Christa Campbell and Lati Grobman have made new strides with their recent productions like Rambo: Last Blood and Red Sonja.

Asked  about when they knew they had reached success as a company and if there was a particular film that was a turning point for them, this is what they had to say: 

"We got a strong start with Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3D unexpectedly beating some more high profile movies at the box office upon the opening.  After that, we  went on to make more dramatic and light hearted films as well (She’s Funny That Way). We also continue to make action films because we are able to reach a broader audience.  We are currently working on The Expendables 4 and The Hitman’s Wife’s Bodyguard."

This should further confirm that EX4 is indeed in the works, and we should be hearing more news soon. 

Thanks to EXfan57 for the tip.

Jul 5, 2019

Sly Cooking Up EX4

I guess it's finally getting started. Sly posted on his Instagram today that he's cooking up "the next adventure" by showing a picture of Barney Ross. Hold on tight, it's coming...

Jul 2, 2019

EX4 Set for a 2021 Release?

According to HN Entertainment some of Lionsgate’s 2020-2021 releases include the new Chris Rock-produced Saw reboot, Doug Liman’s Choas Walking, Ryan Reynolds’ The Hitman’s Bodyguard’s Wife, and Keanu Reeve’s John Wick: Chapter 4/Rally Car. There also is an expectation that Sly Stallone’s The Expendables 4 and Chris Evans’ Jeykell will eventually be released by 2021. Lionsgate and Chad Stahelski were developing a feature film reboot of Highlander, but it remains to be seen if that project will be part of the deal.

Assuming that Lionsgate remains consistent with an August release in 2021 which is 2 years away, there is no wonder why filming has not yet started. I suppose there is plenty of time, but the only problem is that the main cast is not getting any younger!!

Statham Talks EX4

A French movie outlet reported a recent interview with Statham himself on F&F 9 & EX4. This is what he had to say:

"Sylvester Stallone has been talking to me about this for a while, and the film should be done before we're all too old." Again, that's not my decision.  If Sly calls, I’ll answer immediately, we have so much fun on the Expendables sets. "

May 25, 2019

More Hints to EX4

After a couple of hints by Sly & Couture early this month, more hints to an upcoming EX4 have been captured in interviews with Lundgren and the franchise's producer Avi Lerner.

In a sport related interview, Lundgren mentions that he is working with Sly on "possibly an Expendables 4".

And in an interview during this year's Cannes festival, Lerner mentions that another Expendables movie is part of his upcoming projects.

We seem to be getting closer to EX4...

May 6, 2019

Couture: EX4 Filming in the Summer

Couture is at it again. In an interview with MMA Core, he shared that  there is a script for EX4 that he’s excited to read, and that filming should start in the summer. He further shares that things have been going back and forth with Sly for the past couple of years, who was busy with Escape Plan, Creed and Rambo but has now come around and ready to shoot EX4. 

It's not the first time that Couture has given out info on production dates that did not transpire, but given the recent hypes around the movie, he might be right  this time.

May 4, 2019

Sly (Kinda) Reconfirms EX4

Promoting Rambo 5 and Rocky 7!!! on his Instagram, Sly confirmed back to an EX4 craving fan that  the upcoming installment will be the best in the series and that we had to be patient. Easy for you to say Sly, we’ve been patient since 2015!

Mar 17, 2019

Stallone in Tunisia to scout for EX4?!

A Tunisian news outlet has reported today that Stallone & Lundgren will be soon coming to their country to scout locations for the filming of EX4. The reliability of the news is obviously questionable but could also be true, timing is in line with previous reports of an April production start date. Here's the translation of the article pertaining to EX4.

The two world stars will enjoy their stay in southern Tunisia to scout locations for their film "The Expendables 4".

Taking advantage of his friendship with the great Swedish actor Dolph Lundgren, the world champion of Karate, Sadok Kouka, took the initiative to invite his childhood friend for the third time to Tunisia.
"Dolph has been my friend for 25 years...

"It's official, then, these two sacred monsters of the American cinema will be, on March 25, in Kantaoui for two days, before moving to Tozeur to scout filming locations " said Sadok Kouka.

Mar 3, 2019

Jet Li/Mickey Rourke Had Bigger Roles with Plans To Film Scenes In China

HN Entertainment’s Nicholas Whitcomb recently spoke with screenwriter Richard Wenk (The Equalizer 1-2, Jack Reacher: Never Go Back, Kraven The Hunter) about his previous work on The Expendables franchise specifically his work on The Expendables 2. Richard revealed that Mickey Rourke’s role was given to Liam Hemsworth and Jet Li had a scaled-back subplot due to the production losing an offer to film a segment of the film in China (something that has been rumored for The Expendables 4 for years).
HN: I did want to touch upon The Expendables 2, what was it like I guess working with Sly [Stallone] on that sequel? How did that project come to you?
WENK: “It came to me through the director Simon West, who I had written a movie for previously called The Mechanic and he was hired to do The Expendables 2 and called me. I met with Sly [Stallone] and he was very gracious, open, and allowing me the freedom to create the story and the additional characters that I thought would be needed for the second movie.”
“Those movies are puzzle pieces, who is going to be in them, and how long? What’s the driving inciting incident and all those things with the creator, which is Sly. But I worked with Simon [West] on the size and scope of the movie and the action blocks and things like that.”
HN: Was there anything major you had to cut from the film? Perhaps, like a cameo or an actor you couldn’t work in there? 
WENK: “Originally, Mickey Rourke was in the movie, then he wasn’t. That facilitated the creation of the [Liam] Hemsworth character, the additional character.”
“I can tell you that the original script called for a big chunk of the movie to take place in China and at the last minute China decided to rescind their offer to shoot there. We had to come up with a way of having Jet Li stay in China when they never actually went to China.”
“It was actually Sly’s idea to have him just jump out of the plane over China. Those are the kind of things that you’re flying by the seat of your pants and you’re like ‘What do we now?… Cause the rest of the script Jet Li’s not in it’. There was a whole subplot they brought these Chinese businessmen home and he decided he wanted to stay home with his family, that was all in the script. It was Sly’s idea to just open the bottom of the plane and have him leap out.”
When asked about ideas for the possible fourth film Wenk suggest maybe scaling back the cameos and number of characters to the original two movies that focused on the main core of guys.
WENK: “If I were the boss of The Expendables franchise I’d circle back to the origins of it I think it feels like I’ve attached myself to the core group of guys and what I liked about doing the second one it didn’t really expand into the Mel Gibson, Harrison Ford, Antonio Banderas additions. It was sort of living with the original concept that Sly came up with and I would probably circle back and have it a little more like that. I think it kind of expanded beyond, it kind of jumped-the-shark a little bit and I think the best action movies are the best [when] you attach yourself to certain characters and when you have too many or it gets too loud, you’re less engaged. So, for me, I’d tie it back.”
“Those are the key characters we fell in love with and want to follow and I think in the second one with the addition of the cameo of Chuck Norris was a nice wink to that time [the era of 1980’s action films], it was organic to the story it didn’t intrude. I’m a big believer of sticking with what got ya there and their interpersonal relationships.” 

Feb 17, 2019

EX4 to Start in April?

Although still questionable, this Bulgarian website claims that filming of EX4 should begin in April in Bulgaria as previously speculated by many other reports and various outlets. 

April is only less than 2 months away and no official word has come out of anyone's mouth yet.

New EX Official Dicussion Group

Whether it's a sign that production is gearing up, the official EX Twitter site has launched a new discussion group on Facebook. Check it out!

Oct 20, 2018

EX4 Script Is In!!!

Not sure how this has been missed by anyone on the internet...Gregory Poirier seems to have finished the script of EX4 at the end of July already!! He actually posted it on his Twitter account: "Expendables 4 script is in. Watch this space for more details.

Does this mean it's finally happening? Latest news of Sly's next projects seem to point to the direction of other movies such as Samaritan or Hunter. Will Sly make EX4 before heading to doing his own projects? I for one am tired of waiting until this project happens...

Sep 9, 2018

EX4 Getting Closer to Reality

Since Stallone has started his preparation for Rambo 5 - to be filmed in Bulgaria - the news outlets in the country have begun reporting on the star and his future trips to Bulgaria. 24 Chasa, one of the most reputable news outlets there is reporting that EX4 will indeed begin filming in Bulgaria in April.

Other semi-confirmation is Gregory Poirier's twitter page where he's now listing EX4 as one of his current projects. It was reported in the past that Poirier would team up with Sly to write the script for the fourth installment. 

Jun 2, 2018

EX4 Back on Track for NOW!

After six months of doubtful news including a Couture type of hint to the filming start date, there is a more solid confirmation of the EX4 project being back on track.

According to Deadline Stallone will return for Rambo 5 in September 2018 and star in The Expendables 4 in early 2019. Apparently the Chinese exhibition giant Dadi has pre-bought mainland China distribution rights to Sylvester Stallone-fronted action sequels The Expendables 4 and Rambo 5 from Avi Lerner’s Millenium Media.

I remain skeptical until the project starts filming and we see set photos. A similar deal was announced in October 2015 and then fell apart. in December 2016 a distributor bought the rights to EX4 in Germany but again nothing followed and Sly backed out of the project entirely in March 2017 before he was convinced late last year to return.

There is no question that Avi is trying hard to make the project take off but the stars have not been lining up for him. Maybe this time...

Jan 14, 2018

Looks Like EX4 Is Actually Happening Again!

After a few “not sure what to think of” posts on Instagram, Sly has now posted a rather firmer confirmation that EX4 is back on track by teasing the return of Barney. Something must be cooking for Sly to hype EX4 in such a fashion. His Christmas picture with Avi and now his series of posts on Instagram insinuating the return of the Expendables team doesn’t seem to be a coincidence any longer or some sort of a wishful thinking on the action icon’s part. It looks like it’s finally happening or at least there is intent of making it happen again. It’d better be, they’ve been teasing it for over 2 years!!

Jan 6, 2018

A Glimpse of Hope?

I don't even feel like updating the blog anymore as I've come to believe that this project is dead for good. But again now and then there's a glimpse of hope that things might be back on track. This was the case last week with first a picture of Sly & Avi appearing together in a Christmas family reunion maybe telling us that they are at least somehow friends again? Or talking some serious EX4 deal? And then Sly for the one millionth time posted a couple of  teasers on his Instagram saying that he was getting back into action shape despite being old, and that old school action was coming back. Go figure.

Maybe it doesn't mean anything as always but like I said, there is maybe a glimpse of hope...

Aug 10, 2017

EX4 Back On With Sly?!

After a long silence since Avi's announcement of Sly's exit from the EX4 movie, over a week ago, a number of hints were thrown at fans  by Sly on his Instagram page, implying his return to the project. 

First an ambiguous hint that the Expendables were about to get " ... Very Dark" .... Again... and then a week later he posted a childhood picture of himself, Arnold, Willis and Van Damme, promising that "the boys were back in town! " all together!"

Fans who have known Sly over the years know best how famous he is for teasing upcoming projects that often don't realize. 

A couple of days ago a video appeared online in which Sly confirms that EX4 is "gonna happen". Not sure how old and real this video is but if it is, then maybe there is hope for the project to be truly back on track with its originals cast members. At this point after so many controversies and cancellations over the 2 years since it was first announced, it's hard to trust anything until production kicks off...but stay tuned, you never know.

May 19, 2017

EX4 Moving Ahead Without Sly!

It's finally confirmed by Avi himself - EX4 will be moving ahead without Sly, it's official, Sly is out of the EX franchise. Here's what Avi had to say:

THR: Sylvester Stallone said there will be no more Expendables with him.

Avi: Well, that's what he said last time.

THR: You think there might be another?

Avi: Not with Sylvester. There will be more Expendables, but not with him. Sly wanted to produce the movie, and I don't think he can produce the movie. He's a good actor. He's a good writer. But he's not a good producer. And I didn't want to give him $100 million to produce.

THR: Are you still friends with him?

Avi: Obviously less. But I respect him. I think he's one of the icons of the world. You know, without being too mean, I took him when he was down, when nobody wanted to hire him, and I gave him Rambo and The Expendables. I think I gave him a new life.

THR: So you're not doing Expendables 4?

Avi: We will do Expendables 4, without Sylvester Stallone. We've got a script. We're working on it. Look, Batman, they changed the guys. Spider-Man. You name it.

THR: What's the biggest-budget movie you've made?

Avi: Expendables 3 was $80 million.

THR: What's the most you've paid an actor?

Avi: Twenty million. Sylvester Stallone. We were going to pay him that for Expendables 4.

THR: What's next?

Avi: We are going to do Hellboy [and] Expendables 4 next year. We're doing Expendabelles. It will be 10 big female names. We're doing Angel Is Fallen, we're shooting a movie called #211 with Nicolas Cage, and we just finished a movie called Stoic with Antonio Banderas.

So that's it...it's kind of sad. I can't imagine the EX franchise without Sly but I'm willing to give it a chance if they make it a quality production keeping the original concept, no young Expendables please.

Personally I think it will not draw the same amount of crowd without Sly and Arnold (who said would be totally out without Sly), but who knows, he might accept to return if Avi gives him the lead role and more money. Now anything could happen, Avi seems to be determined to get the 4th installment going. 

The other point where I believe Avi is overly optimistic about is when he compares the EX franchise with Batman or Spider-Man. It's an interesting and disconnected perspective that he carries. I believe there was some comparison when they were promoting EX3 to the Avengers as well!! People go see Batman for Batman not so much for the guy behind the mask, same for Spider-Man or any comic book superhero, that's why you can keep recycling the actors. The concept and context remain the same no matter who plays the character (of course people have preferences, Bale over Kilmer, or Keaton over Clooney, etc.) but they still go see Batman. The EX franchise is based off a unique concept of assembling old time action icons i.e. Sly, Arnold, Willis and Co. You can't replace them by new actors, people go see the Expendables for the men behind the action not so much the characters in the movie. You can't replace Sly or Arnold...

That being said, if Avi remains authentic to the original concept and is able to keep Statham on board, give Arnold more money and one of the lead roles, bring Willis back, make peace with Seagal, add other action Stars such as Jaa, Yen, Chan (unlikely as he's already doing a project with Sly and has never been a big fan of cameos, unless he also gets a lead role with some hefty money), bring Van Damme back in some new capacity, get Russell (he's taking any ensemble role nowadays) or even add some newer action guys such as Johnson (unlikely to happen but Avi has the money now since Sly's $20M is up for grab and money talks in Hollywood) or Diesel (he might actually do it for $20M); then we might be going somewhere here...knowing Avi's track record, what I'm wishing for here is probably optimistic on my part!

May 18, 2017

EX4 Cannes Poster

A glimpse of news. A poster of EX4 has been identified as what seems to be a promotional item for Cannes. It looks to be legitimate but the question is how realistic is it for Avi & Co. to sell EX4 to distributors at Cannes knowing that Sly has declined to take part (so far) as there hasn't been any news of the contrary.

The other interesting point is the cast. Only Sly, Statham & Banderas appear on the poster whereas in the past Li was always promoted even when there was no definite negotiation for his participation. It looks thin and I wonder whether we'll have EX4 at all and if yes will any of the heavyweight action stars be in it?